Session Start: Tue Apr 02 22:27:49 2002 * Logging #ShOC to '#shoc0402.log' * AlexDTS_Mtg switches on the log recorder. *** TekWWW is now known as Tek_Mtg Jerry! Hiya Jerry Hi Jerry Hey Jerry! hi Alex, sorry I am late Perfect timing. :) I guys hi Howdy Tek. hi Ray Well, let's all ID for the record. :) * AlexDTS_Mtg is ADM Alex Rosenzweig, Chief Science Officer, FH 1860 Avenger, and Chief of Shuttlecraft Operations and Director, DTS and OTI, STARFLEET * Gumby_Mtg is Vice Admiral Johnathan Simmons, CODENAME: Gumby, Dammit... Commander: 17th Fleet, Vice Chief: SFI ShOC, Deputy Director: Section 31 and CO of the USS Stormbringer, NCC-74213 - Section 31 Flagship and SFI Chapter of the Y2K Virus! Ray Brown is CO of Shuttle WIlliam Wallace... * The-Wolf is Chief Ambassador Kyle J. Wolf (Captain), Director SFDC, Director R7 ShOC, CO USS Sun Tzu and R7 Ambassador * ASDB_Tigger is Admiral Chris Wallace, ASDB Chairman * Robin is Region One RC and CO USS Tempest. Used to be R1 ShOC Guy. EFCP Senior Assistant... * Tek_Mtg is Comm. Jerry Tien, VRC R4 AIG, R12... * Milan is Lt. Commander Lauren Milan, Graphic Designer for ShOC, Gumby's Partner in Crime, and designer of the newly launched SFMC site at www.sfi-sfmc.org! woo hoo! biff? * FCapt_Biff_mtg is FCapt. Biff Bassett, ShOC Webmaster, ShOC Director R17, Starfleet :) Chief flunkie and bottle washer. :-) * Sandman-MPWork is Brigadier General Sanford Berenberg, Vice Chief of Computer Operations, Director of Membership Processing, and a whole lot more. and its all yours if the price is right. Biff's in a meeting.... ah Ours! >:) LOL how about pocket lint for it Okey-dokey. Thanks for coming, all, and it's nice to see our turnout jump up a bit. :) Well, I guess I'm the new kid on this block. :-) We'll start with a bit of news, and then we can get down to some creative work. :) ok A green light here. :-) On the shuttle/EFCP end, I have sent the paperwork to Ops to commission the Avalon, and now have paperwork in hand for the shutte Banting, as well. I'm with you, Alex. BAnting? cool on the Avalon :) what region is the Banting Ditto... 13? 13 * Sandman-MPWork is firing up the Database Cool! I think they may be a bit early, though. Gonna double-check the database, but I don't think they can go for a month or so. Alex, you and I should sit down and compare ShOC/EFCP notes with the Fleet Database, we already know of one discrepancy good idea 'Kay. Also, I notice a mistake or three on the VRR for the Nemesis tonight Alex. Is there any resolution on the Nemesis' situation, Robin? Address mistakes, easily fixed. Still trying. I'm in a holding pattern on their stuff pending your info. you can email the corrections to me to ensure they get in the DB membership@sfi.org Should know for sure one way or the other be early next week, I hope. Okey-dokey. Sandy, I think they just made typos on the VRR, you should have correct address (I hope!). okay, email me what you have on the VRR and I will compare notes FYI, USS Banting commissioned 2/4/1999 oh? could it have decommed?? Oh, doh! I should say Hadfield. Sorry, brain-fart. ;) so why do we need paperwork? ok Hadfield, ok *** FCapt_Biff_mtg has quit IRC (Ping timeout) got it I think they have to wait 'til mid-May before it'll be time to send their stuff up to MAV, but they sent it out early. Yup, launch date was September. 9/17/2001 Aye-ffirmative. And I have word in-hand that Hera's aboard in EFCP, too. dig it Not in the DB yet *** FCapt_Biff_mtg (biff@2fd8f6a5.296d6466.540cf85.1faf4a71X) has joined #ShOC re, Biff Their members are currently assigned to the USS Challenger cool on the Hera Thanks Haven't heard of the Hera... I think Dennis just got the paperwork. No prob. Hera's based in the Atlantic City, NJ area. They're a group coming over from UFPI. wonder if the other two will follow or not I wonder how many are left in the UFPI. :-) 15 as of yesterday Chapters, that is. :-) Wow. 15 people or 15 chapters, Gumby? LOL chapters *** Jadeel (ajbrown@f021f9f.21531281.bois.uswest.net) has joined #ShOC *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jadeel hehe Hi, Jo hi Jo * FCapt_Biff_mtg gives Jadeel a *Hug* and a *Rose* :) Hi Jolynn Hi alex and Jerry they were down to under 200 back in 2000 *** Anasazi-CO (kjhvkuyv@7795dbe.20db5883.nm.comcast.net) has joined #ShOC Thank you Biff. . .ahhhh shucks. . .BLUSH Hey Sandy Hi Jo heya John Hey Gumby hi Jadeel Hi John! Hiya John Hi Jadeel. Hi, John Eveniong all Greetings Ray * The-Wolf waves Folks, Anasazi-CO is Col. John Roberts (my VRC) and he wanted to come sit in on the meeting... everyone say hi, John. :-) hi John, welcome to team shoc Hi John hi John We are a ShOCing bunch .. . Hi John again ain't that the truth I'll try not to get in the way hiya Hey Lauren Hi, John. So, what's going tonight with us ShOCing people. news at the moment Alex was telling us the Hera just entered EFCP COOL!!! Okay. Back on track here. We also have some staffing news. :) Ok, I just downloaded the current database and the luanch of shuttle Hadfield in R13 Actually, the Hadfield's sent paperwork--a bit early--for their commissioning. hmmmmm. . .sounds like we have shuttle springing up all over the place now. . which is AWESOME!!! *** StoneColdQ (StoneColdQ@1a9e3c85.a6c6559.297f4433.10acf436X) has joined #ShOC well, we'd rather have it a bit early than a bit late *** StoneColdQ is now known as SCQ-meeting HI Dennis true Anyway, I'd like to introduce you all--like any of you don't know him ;) --to our new Sr. Vice Chief, COMM Jerry Tien! Hiya Dennis! Hi, Dennis! *** Gumby_Mtg sets mode: +o Tek_Mtg Sorry to be late folks..........we had a bad night at work Who Alex? 's okay, Dennis. hi Dennis Hi, Dennis. THe guy with the pie on his phace * Gumby_Mtg nails Tek_Mtg square in the face with a Sara Lee (tm) Chocolate Cream Pie! lol Hiya Dennis hi Dennis Hi Jerry! Congrats or condolences on the new job......your choice and may the Maker of all things have mercy on your soul! * Tek_Mtg give Gumby a shot of vicious Chinese Whiskey :) Congrats, Jerry! thx, Ray * Gumby_Mtg knocks it back with a grimace Now I have some even more interesting news... drumroll.......... Some of you know this, already, but still... :) drumroll.......... Yours truly has thrown his hat into the ring to seek election to another term as R7 RC. :) :) Oh Boy. :-) Alex? * SCQ-meeting calls for the guys in the white coats and butterfly nets to go see Alex immediately. Are you crazy? heh... Join ShOC... help form new chapters, help build the fleet of tomorrow... become an RC :) Well, while you do that send them to Gumby too. . .;) of course he is crazy, he runs us 'Course I am, Robin. ;) lol Gumby Don't forget Robin... he started all this See, takes one to know one! no, don't send Gumby away...that makes me Rc and I'm not ready yet hee You know Alex I thought about it for R5 for about 24 hrs. . .and took a reality check. . good Luck ALex Thanks, Gumby. :) Jolynn, you already played RC for a weekend last year man, are all the shoc people doing the RC thing Oh, yes, Good Luck, Alex. Not yet. (evil grin) Yeah. . . .and I liked the power. . but decided with all that I have going on right now. . .It would be best to just sit back and play around with the reality stuff. Good luck with the election, Alex.. * Jadeel is going back to school starting next Tuesday morning. Actually, Gumby and I were laughing about that the other day, saying if anybody had suggested even the possibility that we both might end up on the AB before Les' term was up, we'd have laughed, and laughed hard. Hey! I told everyone I didn't wanna be RC... bastards went ahead and elected me anyway... why i'll murderize em! :-) Thanks, Robin, Ray congrads Jadeel good luck Alex Alex. . you can do it. . . Just look what you did to us? Good Luck Alex Congrats Jo Now, there may be as many as four other candidates, so the outcome of the election is hardly certain. But I want ed you all to be aware as this process happens, 'cause just in case I do manage to win this thing, that could mean a lotmore changes in ShOC. so, he is to blame then Thanks, Jerry, Jo, Biff... :) yep Yeah, slightly. :-)\ lol you would still be DTS even if elected Alex? shoc will become the department of RC advisors Yeah. the you would still be on the team cool Absolutely. Y'don't get rid of me that easily. ;) Like I say at work... * AlexDTS_Mtg is kinda reconsidering the chapter post he's seeking, though. "You can't fire me, slaves have to be sold!" lol LOL chapter post Alex?? Old Admirals never die. .they just find something more to do. . . ;) I'd applied for XO. ah But I'm contemplating withdrawing from that one. Doing both that and RC would be a bit much, with the amount of attention that R7 would need. so long as I dont have to do any more work you can do what you want....... Haven't decided for sure, but thinking a lot. Delegate... delegate. :-) lol, sandy! hell, CS would be less work..... But, anyway, that's the news from the world of 'Fleet politics. ;) wait, CS is Les work sorry, could not resist snort And that, too, is the news from my end. Anyone else have stuff they'd like to share with the class? ME...me...me...me Okay, Dennis. :) Well, hopefully in a few weeks I may be a single woman. . .does that count? I'm pleased to announce that EFCP today accepted two new ships into the program............. sure, I think 1 person is glad to hear that, Jo ;-) Hmmmm. . I wouldn't know who that was. . . Jadeel, is that a good thing or a bad thing> VERY good thing. . . USS Hera, in Northfield JG NJ that is and a second ship which will be announced at the R1 Summit April 26th-28th in Pidgeon Forge, TN That's all I have in good news. :-) Hey that's great Dennis ! :) USS Hera is COed by Jim Rennie, retired Vice Commander in Chief, UFPI Definitely cool. Great news! Bringing in the Hera is a big one. yes I've heard of Jim. :-) Jim's cool. He was on the old Constitution and early years of the Avenger back in the mid-80s. I"m sorry I can't reveal the other ship, but I gave my word to keep it under my and those who HAD to know's hat till Summit. And since R1RC is here, I can't get away with letting it slip! :-) Dennis I know....... but have since forgot..... so we are safe Sandy, will you get Hera set up in the database for me? * Robin is reading! hehe, Mr. Pillow is here? :) I can do that, email me the info Okay........now it's been a while since i took in a new ship.........what do you need? <------is Mr. Pillow. just send the info on the VRR to me Ah...........I don't have a VRR yet...........I have an application for EFCP. membership@sfi.org that is enough, chapter address, co, xo, class, etc, etc, Ship name, city of charter, address, CO and XO, right? yup I'll email it tongiht after the meeting. Got to send it to Ops least M.Vinson growl at me. Alex's okay is good enoufh I know, but I've got to let Mark Vinson feel important you know...........good for his ego. :-) lol thats okay, I gave him a lollypop and a disney toy I keep Mark in the loop on this sort of thing with shuttles, anyway, especially since he's overseeing the VR. snort HE oversees the VR? The webpage says I do! Sorry.....could not resist. :-) heheh not for much longer, the new DB will do it automatically, up to the minute even Way cool Sandy! Sweet.... "Computer, run standard report VR-1." and Robin, it should print regional rosters faster to.... Anyway... Anything else in the news-or-issues category? not here Not really. Just being the new kid on this block. :-) Oncely Twicely Thricely Okay. News section's wrapped. :) Now, our creative-side tasks deal with the presentation. NEW kid on the block? Chatting here... :-) * SCQ-meeting is very puzzled by Ray's statement As most of you know, we finished the general outline last meeting. Oh, okay Summary of the outline? Now, we have to make a few decisions, including whether we're gonna write the actual slides by committee, or approtion them and have each person who wants to help do a few, or whether one person wants to write them all and solicit feedback and assistance as needed. Ray, you remember how to accept a DCC filesend? * Jadeel just began today, learning how to make Power Point presentations. . .FASCINATING! (meblush) No, but hum a few bars and I'll fake it. :-) I do some PowerPoint at work... Might be better if I e-mail you the file, then. we had talked about this last time Alex That'd be easier for me. I can write the EFCP slides with Joe and Ray's help, if someone will do the actual Powerpoint work on them. Comin' at ya', Ray. I also do some PP Got it. Okay, why don't we let Dennis and his team do the EFCP write-ups. k nite folks * Gumby_Mtg waves at Sandman-MPWork! night Gumby and/or Lauren, do either or both of you want to work on the actual layout? If not, I'll run with a full-up version of the basic design concept I've created. Night Sandy 'Night, Sandy! certainly Night, Sandy Nite Sandy' Yep... we can do that Lauren, you wanna tackle it? 'night, Sandy. All right. dash... jump... POUNCE! got it. *** FCapt_Biff_mtg has quit IRC (Leaving: Leaving) Okey-dokey, Lauren. You have the design detail. :) bye Sandy If she tackles it as well as she did the new SFMC website, it will look like a million bucks! cool... it'll rock darn tootin. *** Sandman-MPWork (~sberenber@159b2242.24624475.dsl.speakeasy.net) has left #ShOC *** FCapt_Biff_mtg (biff@2fd8f6a5.296d6466.540cf85.1faf4a71X) has joined #ShOC re Biff * AlexDTS_Mtg played with the design, but isn't wedded to the layout he did in any particular way. wb, Biff Thanks Boy it's a rough time for me tonite * Milan laughs at how good you folks are at getting me to do new stuff... jsut aim for the ego. ;-) Only thing I want is to be in the loop as the design comes together. rollercoaster no problem. Need Super Glue Duck tape! we can toss together some sample frames based on the design and get them approved. then go ahead with the whole pres. Cool! yepyep deadline for prelim next meeting? alrighto. you got it. next topic? :) we'll get the whole gang to dissect... I mean, approve the design LOL! hold on I'll start working on writing the START segment of the thing, unless someone else would prefer to jump in. * SCQ-meeting grabs his scapel how do you guys check it out? the slides everyone here has powerpoint do you have PP ok yes k, that is how I don't on this computer. .but we do on the other two computers in the house. I think I do................Yeah...........this copy of office has it. is Lauren uploading the draft to a central site or e-mailing it? PP files will be huge * AlexDTS_Mtg can screencap and save as a graphic if need be. I can make pdfs of individual screens in Powerpoint. and show that. I see that works. that'll be easier Sorry folks, I am beginning to crash. .so I am going to head to bed. . haven't been feeling up to par today. . so I am boing to leave and check up on everything later. FWIW, microsoft.com does offer free powerpoint and word viewers for download, but that does require the effort of downloading. ;-) night bye Jo nithtnight jadeel! Yes, got it... 'Night, Jo Night. * FCapt_Biff_mtg gives Jadeel a *Hug* goodnite! :) I think I will follow suit.... night, Jadeel Night Wolf, Jerry, Lauren. . Nite, Jadeel Night Alex, Robin and iff night Night Ray and Dennis oh, PP is fine - I was thinking a bunch slides in e-mail can easily flood an acct Is everyone here on East time? (Central here) no Night Robin! PST here CST here Aah. bye Robin We're spread all across the country, Ray. MST here I thought so. ;) *** Jadeel has quit IRC (Leaving: No act of kindness, however small, is every wasted. Aesop) east here Gotta love technology. :) *** Robin (Robin@3c041c4.d14813f.bgk.bellsouth.net) has left #ShOC Yeah, I got a PP from the Grand Slam, it was 2 meg... .. for 5 pictures. Yikes! OUCH!!!!!!! Oooops! so if it's at a central site, we can d/l w/o overflowing the e-mail acct yep That would be a lot eaiser for everyone I think :) Well, if we have a place where we can upload it, that'd work. I daresay that shouldn't be too much of an issue. yes not at all Then we're in good shape. :) I could do it to the ShOC Site :) Welp, looks like you folks are covering stuff out of my field, so. Ja ne! Perfect, Biff. :) *** ASDB_Tigger (tigger1@Network-Admin.fleetchat.org) has left #ShOC you guys have a secure "staff only" section? No I don't have a secure section unfortunately nope, we just ShOC lol, Gumby We've not actually had need of one...'til now. don't even see that we need one now I didn't mean super secure stuff for $ type oh, I know but some groups have a login for staff directories I mean what could they do with it anyway Also true. but it's not a big / urgent thing right now just curious Heck, as long as it's someplace we can point a browser to, it probably doesn't matter. ok something to consider for the future tho... as we grow since I'm going to be the one that's putting the layout on the slides, I may as well post the samples on my web hosting space. ;-) True Gumby ok Lauren Cool with me, Lauren. ok for now anyhow, I can just post the URL, you guys go take a gander and comment sounds good, Lauren cool k Sounds like a plan. and say "This is pig doots, Lauren. Drop and gimme twenty." Good with me ROFL 25 or whatever. inflation Heh Heh 25 do I hear 30? * AlexDTS_Mtg goes with the CBO figures and calls for 30. ;) 35 30! Thank you sir, do I hear 35? Watch me show off by trying it one-handed and landing in Robert Wood Johnson. lol snork * AlexDTS_Mtg snorts. And since he's the closest to Lauren, he'd probably have to be the one to go get her. Hmph... ;) ok I'll be good. heheh We'll hold you to that. ;) is there a time limit here or you can call the cops to pick her up :) Session Time: Wed Apr 03 00:00:00 2002 There's that, too. Anyway, with our plan now set, do we have anything else we need to address tonight? I think I'm done with my task list for the night, at least. I take it that my suggestion that I write the EFCP slides is okay? Yup. 's fine. Ok just send us the URL, Lauren Forgot one thing, Alex.. * AlexDTS_Mtg raises a curious eyebrow. nothing from my end That new List? silence... Motion to adjourn... Ahh, of course. Speak unto us, Ray (grin) Not that big a deal, but.. I was looking thru groups.yahooo for "shuttle".. and I thought, how about a List for anyone who's on a shuttle to chat to each other, no matter what position they have on the shuttle. we have one already a list, that is And for shuttles only, once you got promoted... HUH? Where? we have a list????? Biff is moderator, if I remember correctly is that the onelist one?? I think so Is it actually still there, Gumby? I thought it was gone. A Listserve? it never got much use Yeppers this is correct, it was set up by Dennis Gray in the previous admin ;) no yahoo took over onelist I looked for it and no listing came up both onelist and yahoo cancell lists if they are not used Yeppers and it is still going on If it was inactive for 6 months, it dis'd.. really?? I looked for it and it did not come up on my search -- hmmm I didn't find it either.. must have done something wrong then Lemme check for the addy :) That's why I wanted to start one up. (shrug) I started to create a list on yahoo as a test for R7 My ideer was fleet-wide.. I set the list with that in mind though it is called sfi-shoc just in case it worked Guys, do you need me any longer..........the Chaplain is needed Ok here you go :) ShOC@yahoogroups.com again, just a test I was going to run and see what happened oh? Jill is in trouble, Dennis? :D Go minister, Dennis. :) No.........never mind.......got waved off Just looked... Hmm... A search on "ShOC" hits the R5 list. There is a R5-ShOC-list, that is what I got I didn't see it either See... I'm not nucking futs. (lol) snork! I last posted to it Feb 4th of this year and it was working then :/ yahoo cleaned house I think Maybe it got lost in the Master Reboot.. WEll, Yahoo's been mucking around so much with their system that they may have been going through and deleting very low-use groups or something. :/ the one that also reset the preferences to ON.. :-((( Okay, well... The URL for the one Ray set up is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shuttle_to_shuttle/?yguid=267200 Just finishing my speel, once you commissioned as a Chapter, you bade bye-bye to the shuttle list. :-) ooooooooooooook Outta the kiddy pool! ;) Better than outa da Gene Pool. (snerk) Although, actually, it might not be a bad idea to have some experienced hands around to mentor the newbies. give them a few months on after comm sure Well, then, 6 months. I'm easy (but not cheap). :-) * AlexDTS_Mtg is thinking that setting some sort of cutoff isn't necessarily optimal. Let folks migrate as they will. But we should emphasize that the topic is shuttling and should stay that way (or at least until we change it to shakedowns ;) ). lol Anyway, call me a glutton for punishment... between amateur radio and Boy Scouts, I either participate in, or moderate, over 50 lists. :-) wow * AlexDTS_Mtg blinks. multi-tasking. :-) let's wrap this up, guys ok Ray, are you on starfleet-l? Of course. Want the honor of making the announcement? Ooh. Thank you. I'll probably do it tomorrow, I have to go soon... I have to take my daughter to daycare tomorrow.. *** Anasazi-CO has quit IRC (Leaving: ) wife gets up early to drive a Head Start bus. :-( ok... didn't know your wife was a bus driver any way, I probably should take off soon too No, she's a Head Start teacher.. she has to drive 1 morning a week.. ok and ride another morning a week.. due to labor shortage. :-( good night all! Ray, are you currently the only moderator on shuttle-to-shuttle? otherwise, 8-5. 'Night, Lauren Yes. night Lauren night Lauren talk to you guys later I just signed up for the list * Gumby_Mtg waves at Milan! bye Lauren * Gumby_Mtg waves at Tek_Mtg! later Tek_Mtg bye Since Biff had been moderating the other list, and if he's still interested (Biff?), why not sign him on with moderator privileges to help out? Wolf is approved.. k Biff? *** Tek_Mtg has quit IRC (Leaving: Leaving) Yessir You interested in helping on this List? You betcha Give me an Email addy. biff@pcisys.net Accessing... :-) *** SCQ-meeting has quit IRC (Ping timeout) Okay, then. With that covered, the next meeting would be on 16 April. 's cool? *** StoneColdQ (StoneColdQ@fbb8a3c.a6c6559.wk.net) has joined #ShOC k cool re, Dennis. Okay, in that case, next meeting, with preliminary slide text, 16 April, same ShOCing time, same ShOCing channel... Done. Me as owner, Biff as Moderator. Coolness. :) In 2 weeks? Wow. At least I can do some scout stuff.. which are on the other 2 Tuesdays. :-) yup, that is us - every other - hehe Thanks Ray We meet bi-weekly, Ray. Lets us get a lot done...like tonight. :) We did? Oh, I mean, we did. :-) Yeah, I need to disappear sooon, too. Okay, motion to adjourn? second All in favor, stand up. :-) third * The-Wolf stands (said at some of my meetings) G'night all. *** Gumby_Mtg has quit IRC (Leaving: Harley-Daystrom WarpCycles: You have to get on, to get off!) night Ray *** FCaptRay has quit IRC (Leaving: ) * AlexDTS_Mtg bangs the gavel and turns off the log recorder. Session Close: Wed Apr 03 00:42:01 2002